Why Does My Stomach Feel Bloated After Meals
In this post
- What Bloating Actually Is
- Eating Too Fast and Swallowing Air
- The Size of the Meal and What Is in It
- Fibre, Fizzy Drinks and Foods That Make Gas
- Stress, Tiredness and a Rushed Mealtime
- Simple Habits That Often Help
- Why the Same Meal Feels Different on Different Days
- Eating Out, Late Dinners and Holidays
- A Note on Cutting Foods Out
- When Bloating Deserves a Closer Look
- My Take:
Most people know the feeling well. You finish a meal, you push your plate away, and within a few minutes your stomach feels tight and swollen, as if your belt has suddenly become too small. Your clothes feel uncomfortable, you may feel full of air, and you wish you had eaten less. It is a very common experience, and for most people it comes and goes without meaning anything serious. Yet it can still ruin an afternoon, make you avoid certain foods, and leave you wondering what you did wrong.
Bloating is the name for that swollen, stretched feeling in the belly. Sometimes the belly really does look bigger for a while, and sometimes it only feels that way, even though nothing has changed on the outside. The feeling usually comes from gas or from food and liquid sitting in the stomach and gut for longer than usual. Your digestive system is a long tube that moves food along in waves, and when that movement slows down, or when extra gas builds up inside, the pressure rises and you feel it as tightness. This article explains the ordinary reasons this happens after a meal, in plain words, and the small, practical habits that many people find help. It is general information only, not personal advice, and it never replaces a talk with a health professional if something worries you.
What Bloating Actually Is
To understand bloating, it helps to picture what happens after you swallow. Food travels down into the stomach, where it is mixed with stomach juices and broken into smaller pieces. Then it moves into the gut, where nutrients are taken into the body and the rest keeps moving along. At every stage, a certain amount of gas is normal. You swallow small amounts of air whenever you eat, drink or talk, and the bacteria that live in your gut also make gas as they break down food. Most of this gas leaves the body quietly, without you noticing it at all.
Bloating begins when more gas builds up than usual, or when the food moves more slowly, so the stomach and gut stay fuller for longer. The wall of the gut is sensitive to stretching, so even a small increase in pressure can feel large. That is why a meal that looks small on the plate can still leave you feeling very full and uncomfortable. It is also why the feeling can change so much from day to day. The same meal may cause no trouble on a calm day, and a lot of trouble on a day when you are tired, rushed, or have eaten quickly.
It is worth knowing that bloating is a feeling, not a single illness. Many different things can cause it, and often two or three small things add up at once. A big meal, eaten quickly, after a long gap without food, on a stressful day, is far more likely to leave you bloated than any one of those things on its own. That is good news, because it means small changes to how you eat, rather than one big change, are often enough to make a real difference.
Eating Too Fast and Swallowing Air
One of the most common causes of bloating is simply eating too fast. When you eat quickly, you swallow more air with every bite, and that air has to go somewhere. It fills the stomach and the gut, and it presses on the walls from the inside. People who eat lunch standing up, or in the car, or while looking at a phone, often eat faster than they realise, because they are not paying attention to the food at all. A meal that should take twenty minutes is finished in five, and the stomach has had no time to tell the brain that it is filling up.
Chewing matters for the same reason. When you chew food well, you break it into small pieces before it reaches the stomach, and your stomach has less work to do. When you swallow large pieces of food almost whole, the stomach has to work harder, and the food sits there longer. Taking the time to chew also slows you down naturally, so you eat less air and you notice sooner when you have had enough. It sounds like a small thing, but for many people it is the single most useful change they can make.
Drinking through a straw, talking a lot while eating, and chewing gum can also add air to the stomach, and so can drinking fizzy drinks, which release gas as they warm up inside you. None of these habits is harmful on its own, but together, on top of a large meal, they can be enough to make your stomach feel tight. If you often feel bloated after lunch, try one simple experiment for a week: sit down, put your phone away, and take your time. Many people are surprised at how much difference that alone makes.
The Size of the Meal and What Is in It
The size of the meal matters more than most people think. A very large meal stretches the stomach, and a stretched stomach takes longer to empty. Rich, fatty meals are slower still, because fat takes longer to break down than other foods, so a heavy meal can sit in the stomach for hours. A large, rich meal late at night is the worst combination of all, because you then lie down while the stomach is still full, and lying flat can make the tight feeling worse.
The mix of foods in a meal matters too. Meals built around beans, lentils, cabbage, onions, broccoli and other vegetables that are rich in fibre are healthy, but they also make more gas as they are broken down in the gut. This does not mean these foods are bad for you. It means your gut needs time to get used to them, especially if you have recently started eating much more fibre than before. A sudden jump in fibre, even from healthy foods, can leave you bloated for a few days while your gut adjusts. The answer is not to stop eating vegetables, but to increase them gradually and to drink enough water alongside them.
Salt can play a part as well. Very salty meals can make the body hold on to extra water, and that can add to the feeling of fullness and swelling. Restaurant meals and packaged foods are often much saltier than home cooking, which is one reason people feel more bloated after eating out than after a simple meal at home. None of this is a reason to fear food. It is a reason to notice which meals leave you comfortable and which leave you tight, and to learn from that pattern over a week or two.
Fibre, Fizzy Drinks and Foods That Make Gas
Gas is a normal part of digestion, but some foods make more of it than others, and some people are more sensitive to it. Beans and lentils are the best known example. They contain natural sugars that the small gut cannot break down fully, so they travel on to the large gut, where bacteria break them down and make gas in the process. Soaking dried beans before cooking, and cooking them well, can reduce this, and eating smaller portions more often can help your gut get used to them.
Cruciferous vegetables such as cabbage, cauliflower, broccoli and sprouts have a similar effect. They are full of useful nutrients, but they also make gas as they are digested. Onions and garlic, which appear in almost every cooked meal, can add to the effect as well, especially when eaten raw. Dairy foods are another common trigger. Some people find that milk, cream or large amounts of cheese leave them bloated, because their bodies make less of the enzyme that breaks down milk sugar as they get older. This is very common and it is not the same as an allergy. A person who feels bloated after a milky drink may feel perfectly fine after a small piece of hard cheese, because the amount of milk sugar is different.
Fizzy drinks deserve a special mention. Every bubble in a fizzy drink is gas, and when you drink it, that gas goes into your stomach. Some of it comes back up as a burp, but some of it moves further down and adds to bloating. Sweeteners used in sugar-free drinks and chewing gum can have a similar effect for some people, because the gut bacteria break them down and make gas. If you drink a lot of fizzy drinks and often feel bloated, trying a week with plain water instead is a simple test that tells you a lot.
Stress, Tiredness and a Rushed Mealtime
Your gut and your brain are closely linked, and stress can change how your digestion works. When you are worried, rushed or under pressure, your body sends more energy to your muscles and less to your digestion. The waves that move food along the gut can speed up or slow down, and the gut can become more sensitive to stretching. That is why the same meal can feel fine on a relaxed weekend and very uncomfortable on a busy workday. It is not in your imagination. The feeling is real, and the reason is that stress changes how the gut behaves.
Tiredness has a similar effect. After a poor night of sleep, people often eat more quickly, choose heavier food, and drink more tea or coffee, all of which can add to bloating. A lack of sleep can also make you more sensitive to discomfort in general, so a level of fullness you would hardly notice on a good day feels much worse on a tired day. The connection between sleep, stress and digestion is one reason that bloating often comes in waves, worse in a busy week and better on a holiday, even when the food is much the same.
There is also the simple matter of habit. Many people eat lunch at a desk while working, or eat dinner while watching television, and they finish the meal without ever really noticing it. When you eat without attention, you tend to eat faster, swallow more air, and eat past the point where you are full. A quiet meal, eaten sitting down, with a few minutes to rest afterwards, gives your stomach a much better chance. Even a short, slow walk after eating helps many people, because gentle movement encourages the gut to keep food moving along.
Simple Habits That Often Help
The good news about bloating is that the habits that help are small and ordinary, and you can try them one at a time. The first is to slow down. Give yourself at least fifteen or twenty minutes for a meal, put your fork down between bites, and chew properly. The second is to watch the size of the meal. A slightly smaller plate, with the same foods, often makes more difference than cutting out any single food. Eating smaller meals more often, rather than one very large meal after a long gap, also helps many people, because the stomach never has to deal with a huge amount at once.
The third habit is to drink water through the day. Water helps fibre do its job, and it helps food move along the gut. Sipping water with a meal is fine. Gulping a large glass of fizzy drink with a meal is not the same thing. The fourth habit is to move after eating. A gentle ten-minute walk after lunch or dinner is one of the most reliable ways to ease the heavy feeling, because movement encourages the gut to work. A short walk is better than lying down straight after a meal, which can make the tight feeling worse.
The fifth habit is to keep a simple note for a week or two. Write down what you ate, when you ate, and how you felt an hour later. You do not need a detailed diary. A few lines a day are enough. After a week, a pattern usually appears: a particular food, a rushed lunch, a very late dinner, or a fizzy drink that always comes before the worst days. Once you can see the pattern, you can change one thing at a time and see whether it helps. Trying five changes at once teaches you nothing, because you will never know which one made the difference.
Why the Same Meal Feels Different on Different Days
One of the most confusing things about bloating is that it is not always the same. You can eat the same lunch on Monday and on Thursday, and on Monday you feel fine while on Thursday you feel tight and uncomfortable for hours. When that happens, it is natural to blame the food, but the food is only part of the story. The rest of the story is everything else that happened that day: how much sleep you had, how rushed you were, how much water you drank, whether you ate breakfast or skipped it, and how long you sat still afterwards.
Skipping meals is a common hidden cause. If you miss breakfast, or if you work through lunch and then eat a very large meal late in the day, your stomach has to deal with a lot of food all at once after a long empty stretch. The stomach is used to a steady rhythm, and a long gap followed by a big meal is much harder for it than two smaller meals spaced out. People who skip meals often say they are not hungry in the morning, and then they feel starving by the afternoon and eat far more than they planned. That pattern, repeated every day, is a reliable recipe for bloating.
The time of day matters too. Many people digest food more slowly in the evening, and a heavy meal eaten late, close to bedtime, often causes more trouble than the same meal eaten at midday. The stomach is still working when you lie down to sleep, and lying flat with a full stomach can make the tight feeling worse and disturb your sleep as well. An earlier, lighter evening meal is often the simplest fix for people whose worst bloating comes at night. It is not about eating less food overall. It is about giving the food to your stomach earlier in the day, when it can deal with it more easily.
Water is another piece of the puzzle. If you drink very little water through the day, your gut has less fluid to work with, and food can move more slowly. On a hot day, or a day when you have been sweating at work, this effect is even stronger. A glass of water with a meal, and water through the rest of the day, is one of the cheapest and easiest habits there is, and it is one that many people forget. It does not need to be a large amount at once. Small sips through the day are enough.
Eating Out, Late Dinners and Holidays
Eating out is a time when bloating often gets worse, and there are good reasons for that. Restaurant meals are usually larger than home meals, richer in fat, saltier, and served with bread, fizzy drinks and a sweet pudding on top. You also tend to eat more slowly in one sense, because the meal lasts longer, but you eat more overall, because there is more food in front of you and it is harder to stop. A meal out is meant to be enjoyed, and it should be, but it helps to know why it so often leaves you feeling tight afterwards. It is not one thing. It is the size, the richness, the salt, the fizzy drink, and the extra course, all added together.
Holidays and celebrations are the same, only more so. A wedding meal, a family gathering, or a holiday dinner often means a large meal eaten late, after a long day, with foods you do not eat every day. It is no surprise that so many people feel bloated after these meals. The kindest way to handle it is to expect it, enjoy the food, and not blame yourself. A little discomfort after a celebration meal is normal, and it usually passes by the next day. The trouble only begins when every day starts to look like a celebration meal, with large, rich, late food as the normal pattern rather than the exception.
Late dinners deserve a closer look, because they are so common in busy households. Many people finish work late, cook late, and eat a large meal just an hour or two before bed. The stomach is then expected to do its heaviest work while the rest of the body is trying to rest. If your evenings follow this pattern, try moving the largest meal of the day to lunchtime, and keeping the evening meal lighter: soup, yoghurt, bread, or a small plate of vegetables and rice. Many people find that this one change does more for their evenings than any other, because it matches the meal to the time of day when the stomach is ready for it.
A Note on Cutting Foods Out
When bloating keeps coming back, the temptation is to cut out a whole group of foods and see what happens. Some people stop eating bread, others stop eating dairy, and others stop eating vegetables, all in the hope of a quick answer. This can work for a short test, but it can also cause new problems. Cutting out a food for a week or two to see how you feel is one thing. Cutting out several foods for months, without any plan, is another. A diet that is missing whole groups of foods can leave you short of nutrients, and it can make meals stressful, which can make the bloating worse rather than better.
A gentler way is to change one thing at a time. If you think milk is the problem, try a week with less milk and see how you feel, while keeping everything else the same. If you think beans are the problem, try smaller portions of beans, cooked well, rather than stopping them completely. If you think bread is the problem, try a week with less bread and more rice, and notice whether anything changes. One change at a time is slower, but it is honest, because at the end of the week you will know whether that one change helped. Changing five things at once tells you nothing, and it leaves you with a diet that is harder to live with for no good reason.
It is also worth remembering that food is not only fuel. It is family, celebration, comfort and habit, and a diet that takes all the pleasure out of eating is not a diet anyone can keep. The aim is not to eat a perfect diet. The aim is to eat in a way that leaves you comfortable most days, with foods you enjoy, in amounts that suit your stomach. That is a realistic aim, and it is one that a few small changes, tried patiently, can usually reach.
When Bloating Deserves a Closer Look
For most people, bloating after meals is an ordinary, passing problem, and it settles on its own within a few hours. But there are times when it is worth paying closer attention. If the bloating is new for you, if it keeps happening most days for several weeks, or if it is getting worse rather than better, it is sensible to talk to a doctor. The same applies if the bloating comes with other changes that worry you, such as losing weight without trying, a lasting change in your bowel habits, pain that does not settle, or trouble swallowing.
It is also worth seeking advice if you feel full after only a few bites, meal after meal, or if eating has started to feel like something to avoid because of the discomfort that follows. These are not things to panic about, but they are things a doctor should hear about, because general information in an article can never take the place of a person who can listen to your whole story and examine you. A doctor can ask the right questions, and if needed, arrange simple checks that give a clearer answer than any article can.
The main point is simple: occasional bloating after a big or rushed meal is normal, and small changes to how you eat will often ease it. Bloating that is new, lasting, severe, or joined by other worrying signs deserves a real conversation with a health professional, sooner rather than later. You know your own body better than anyone, and if something feels different from your normal pattern, that feeling itself is worth acting on.
My Take:
If you ask me what I think about bloating after meals, my honest answer is that it is one of the most ordinary problems in the world, and also one of the most misunderstood. Almost everyone has felt it, and yet most people try to solve it by blaming one food, or by buying something expensive, when the real answer is usually much simpler. In my view, bloating is rarely about a single villain. It is about the way we eat: too fast, too much at once, too late, and too often while our minds are somewhere else. Once you see it that way, the fix stops feeling mysterious, and it starts to feel possible.
I think the speed of eating is the part people underestimate most. We live in a world where lunch is something you fit between two jobs, and dinner is something you eat while looking at a screen. I have seen how easy it is to finish a plate in five minutes without tasting a single bite, and then to feel terrible for the next two hours. The stomach is not a machine that takes whatever you throw into it. It is a living part of your body, and it works best when it is given time. Slowing down is not a fancy health tip. It is just giving your body the time it needs to do its job, and I believe it is the single most useful change most people can make.
I also think we should be honest about portion size, because this is where pride often gets in the way. Nobody likes to hear that they ate too much, and yet a very large meal is the most common cause of bloating there is. A plate piled high with rich food, eaten after a long gap without eating, is almost guaranteed to leave you feeling tight. The answer is not to go hungry. It is to eat a little less at each meal and a little more often, so the stomach never has to deal with a mountain of food at once. In my experience, people who try this are often surprised at how little food they actually need to feel satisfied, once they slow down enough to notice.
There is another thing I want to say plainly, and it is about guilt. I have met many people who feel ashamed of bloating, as if it means they have done something wrong, or as if their body is failing them. I do not think that is fair. Bloating is a normal signal from a normal body, and it is usually the body asking for something small: more time, less food at once, a walk, a glass of water, an earlier dinner. Listening to that signal is not weakness. It is sense. The people who feel best about their digestion are not the people with perfect diets. They are the people who have learned to notice what their own stomach is telling them, and to act on it gently.
I also believe we should stop looking for one food to blame. Every few months a new food is blamed for bloating, and people cut it out completely, only to find that the bloating is still there. The truth is that almost any food can cause bloating if you eat too much of it, too fast, on a tired day. Beans, cabbage, onions and dairy can all make gas, but they are also good, useful foods, and cutting them all out would leave you with a poor diet and the same problem. A better approach is to notice which foods cause trouble for you, in what amounts, and on which days, and then to adjust the amount rather than to ban the food forever.
Stress is the part of this story that I think deserves more attention than it usually gets. I have noticed that the same meal can feel completely different on a calm day and on a stressful day, and I do not think that is a coincidence. When you are worried or rushed, your digestion changes, your gut becomes more sensitive, and a level of fullness that would normally pass unnoticed suddenly feels uncomfortable. That does not mean the bloating is in your head. It means your head and your gut are connected, and they always have been. A calm meal, eaten sitting down, with a few minutes to rest afterwards, is not a luxury. It is a practical way to help your digestion work properly.
Sleep matters too, and I think this is often missed. After a bad night, everything feels worse, and digestion is no exception. You eat faster, you choose heavier food, you drink more strong tea or coffee, and you are more sensitive to discomfort. A person who sleeps badly for a week will often feel bloated for a week, and they will blame the food, when the real problem began in the night. I am not saying that sleep fixes everything, but I am saying that it is part of the picture, and that a person who wants to feel better after meals should look at their nights as well as their plates.
The habit I would recommend first, if I had to choose only one, is a short walk after eating. It costs nothing, it takes ten minutes, and it helps more people than almost anything else. A gentle walk after lunch or dinner encourages the gut to keep moving, and it gives you a few minutes of fresh air and calm before you go back to work. It is not exercise in the hard sense. It is just movement, and movement is what the gut needs. I have heard many people say that a short walk is the one thing that reliably eases the heavy feeling after a meal, and I believe them, because it matches everything we know about how digestion works.
The second habit I would recommend is keeping a simple note for a week. Not a detailed diary, not an app, just a few lines a day: what you ate, when you ate, and how you felt afterwards. After a week, a pattern almost always appears, and it is usually a pattern you did not expect. Perhaps it is not the beans at all, but the rushed lunch. Perhaps it is not the dairy, but the fizzy drink. Perhaps it is the late dinner, every single night. Once you can see the pattern, you can change one thing and see whether it helps. That is a much better way to learn about your own body than reading ten articles and guessing.
I also want to say something about eating out and celebrations, because this is where people are hardest on themselves. A wedding meal, a holiday dinner, or a meal at a restaurant is meant to be enjoyed, and it will often leave you feeling full and bloated afterwards, because it is larger and richer than an ordinary meal. That is normal, and it is not a failure. The problem is not the occasional big meal. The problem is when every day becomes a big meal, eaten late, in a rush, with no rest afterwards. If your ordinary days are calm and your meals are reasonable, then a celebration meal will pass by the next morning, and there is nothing to worry about.
I also want to say something about the advice that surrounds this topic, because there is a lot of it, and much of it is not helpful. Every week there is a new drink, a new powder, or a new tablet that promises to end bloating for good. Most of these products are expensive, and most of them do nothing that a slower meal and a short walk would not do for free. I am not saying that nothing you can buy ever helps anyone, but I am saying that a person should try the simple, free changes first, and give them a fair few weeks, before spending money on a product. If a product promises a cure in a day, that promise itself is a reason to be careful, because digestion does not work that way.
I think it is also worth saying that bloating is more common than people admit, and that talking about it openly helps. Many people suffer in silence because they feel embarrassed, and that silence makes the problem feel bigger than it is. When people talk about it, they usually discover that their friends, their family, and their workmates have all felt the same thing, and that they have all found small things that help. There is nothing shameful about a stomach that feels full after a meal. It is one of the most human experiences there is, and sharing it is a strength, not a weakness.
There is one more thing I want to be honest about, and it is the limit of general advice. This article, like all general health writing, can describe common causes and common habits, but it cannot tell you what is happening in your own body. If your bloating is new, if it happens most days for weeks, if it is getting worse, or if it comes with other changes that worry you, then the right move is a conversation with a doctor. I say this not to frighten anyone, but because it is the honest thing to say. A doctor can listen to your whole story, ask questions that an article cannot ask, and arrange checks if they are needed. That is worth more than any amount of reading.
So here is my final view, in plain words. Bloating after meals is usually the result of small, ordinary things adding up: a large meal, eaten quickly, late in the day, on a tired or stressful day, with a fizzy drink on the side. The fix is usually small too: slow down, eat a little less at once, chew properly, drink water, take a short walk after eating, and keep the evening meal lighter and earlier. Try one change at a time, give it a week, and see what happens. That is a calm, sensible way to learn about your own body, and it works better than panic, or blame, or a drawer full of expensive products.
I would also tell a friend who asked me about this to be patient with themselves. Digestion does not change in a day, and a habit that has built up over years will not disappear in a week. But small changes do add up, and after a few weeks of slower meals and shorter walks, most people feel the difference. The goal is not a perfect stomach that never feels full. The goal is a normal stomach that feels comfortable most days, and a person who knows what to do on the days when it does not. That is a realistic goal, and it is one that almost anyone can reach.
I also think it is worth remembering that your stomach is not the same every day, and that expecting it to behave the same way every day is not fair to it. Some days you will eat a full plate and feel fine, and other days a small meal will leave you feeling tight and uncomfortable, and neither day means that something is wrong with you. Bodies change with sleep, with stress, with the weather, and with the time of year, and digestion changes with them. The people who feel best about their digestion are not the people who never feel bloated. They are the people who have learned that a bad day is just a bad day, and that a few calm days of slower meals and shorter walks will usually put things right again.
One last thought: I think the best thing about this topic is how much of it is in your own hands. You do not need a prescription, you do not need a special diet, and you do not need to spend money. You need time, attention, and a little kindness towards your own body. Eat slowly, eat sitting down, eat a reasonable amount, move a little afterwards, and rest well at night. Those are simple things, but they are the things that matter most, and they are the things I would keep coming back to. In my view, that is the real lesson of bloating after meals, and it is a lesson worth remembering.
Frequently Asked Questions
Can my stomach feel bloated after meals be linked to sleep or tiredness?
Yes, it can. After a poor night of sleep, people often eat more quickly, choose heavier food, and drink more tea or coffee, all of which can add to bloating. Tiredness also makes you more sensitive to discomfort, so a level of fullness you would hardly notice on a good day can feel much worse on a tired day. Stress has a similar effect, because it changes how the gut moves food along and how sensitive the gut is to stretching.
Is my stomach feel bloated after meals something I should worry about?
For most people, occasional bloating after a large or rushed meal is normal and settles on its own within a few hours. It becomes worth paying closer attention to if it is new for you, if it happens most days for several weeks, if it is getting worse, or if it comes with other changes such as losing weight without trying, lasting changes in bowel habits, pain that does not settle, or trouble swallowing. In those cases, a talk with a doctor is the sensible step.
What can I do in general when my stomach feel bloated after meals happens?
The habits many people find helpful are small and ordinary: slow down and chew properly, eat a slightly smaller meal, drink water through the day, and take a gentle ten-minute walk after eating rather than lying down straight away. Keeping a simple note for a week or two, writing down what you ate and how you felt afterwards, often reveals a pattern, such as a rushed lunch or a fizzy drink, that you can then change one step at a time.
Why does my stomach feel bloated after meals happen to me?
It usually happens because gas builds up or food moves slowly through the stomach and gut, so the belly feels stretched and tight. Common reasons include eating too fast and swallowing air, a very large or rich meal, foods that make more gas such as beans, cabbage and onions, fizzy drinks, stress, tiredness, and eating late at night. Often two or three small reasons add up on the same day, which is why the same meal can feel fine one day and uncomfortable the next.
How long does my stomach feel bloated after meals usually last?
For most people it lasts a few hours and settles on its own as the stomach empties and the gas passes. A large, rich meal can take longer, especially if it was eaten late at night. If the feeling lasts most of the day, every day, for several weeks, or if it keeps getting worse rather than better, it is worth talking to a doctor about it rather than waiting and wondering.
When should I speak with a healthcare professional about my stomach feel bloated after meals?
Speak to a doctor if the bloating is new for you, if it happens most days for several weeks, if it is getting worse, or if it comes with other changes that worry you, such as weight loss without trying, a lasting change in bowel habits, pain that does not settle, trouble swallowing, or feeling full after only a few bites at almost every meal. A doctor can listen to your whole story and arrange simple checks if they are needed.